Podcast with Elsa Anka
"At home, they call me Granny Herbs"

🎧 Introducing the Naranja Amarga Podcast (Juan Llorca and Nutrikids), with the support of Feroz 👣

🍊 In this episode, we discuss, with humor and reflection, how children's nutrition has changed over the generations. 👶✨
🎙️ Elsa Anka shares her experience as a mother and grandmother, highlighting the importance of good habits, family example 👩👧👦, and balance when it comes to sugar 🍬 and ultra-processed foods 🥤, all from an approachable and realistic perspective 💬💛


If you prefer to read the content, here is a brief summarized outline with key phrases from the conversation:

Context and protagonists

  • Podcast: Naranja Amarga (children's nutrition).
  • Guest: Elsa Anka (journalist/model/actress and recent grandmother).
  • Hosts: Melisa Gómez and Juan Llorca.

Motherhood, grandmotherhood, and bonding

Central idea: parental love is immense and brings constant worry.

  • “It’s the most wonderful thing that can happen to you, but love is proportional to suffering.”
  • “Your happiness now depends 100% on that of your children.”
  • “I love my granddaughter as much as my children.”

Grandmother's role: enjoyment vs. boundaries

A more playful role, conscious of not encroaching on the parents' role.

  • “You get the more playful part: having fun and being well.”
  • “If she doesn’t want to eat… that’s for the parents.”
  • “At my daughter’s house, I’m a bit of the herb grandma.”

Generational changes in nutrition

Before: tricks and beliefs without evidence; now: child's signals and science.

  • “The pacifier and spoon trick… it worked, but I wouldn’t do it today.”
  • “It made me uncomfortable to be forced to eat.”
  • “We can't judge the past: they did the best they knew how.”

Sugar, ultra-processed foods, and social normalization

Critique of current exposure and the "normalcy" of sweets.

  • “Seriously, if it’s not with sweets, the child won’t be happy?”
  • “It’s not just once; often it’s almost every day.”
  • “A 5-year-old today has consumed more sugar than a 100-year-old in their entire life.”
  • “What you eat, they will eat.”

Strategies and habits that work

Modeling, varied offerings, respecting satiety, fruit/yogurt for snacks.

  • “I put it on the table: no forcing, trying a small scoop and then more.”
  • “With my granddaughter, natural yogurt with cut fruit… she eats it very well.”
  • “If salad doesn't come first, I'll have a bit of apple cider vinegar.”

Health > aesthetics, and critical view without fatphobia

Priority: functional capacity and long-term well-being.

  • “I want to be 85 and be able to tie my shoes.”
  • “Fatphobia is the insult; asking ‘are you well?, do you need help?’ is not.”

Advertising, environment, and group

The environment pushes for worse eating; the group can also push for better eating.

  • “Before it was TV and magazines; today there’s advertising everywhere.”
  • “If his group eats salad, he also eats salad.”

Illustrative anecdotes

“Compulsory” chocolate milk, cologne for nausea, bread with dark chocolate, kombucha vs. lollipops.

  • “I question giving her kombucha… but we accept a lollipop. Are we crazy?”

“Feroz Question” and children’s footwear

Wear shoes when they can already walk and for protection from the environment; otherwise, barefoot is better.

  • “The child, barefoot all day, if possible.”

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